S-mate vs SNZB-01P scen

Model 1
1.
scene 1.a
if : zb click button
then: manual scene “reverse” (switches the state of the light)

Do you agree that this is okay?

2
scene 2
if: light 1 on or light 2 on
then: 30S delay
manual scenes “off”

do you agree that it is okay?

do you agree that scene 2 will be done based on the state of the light on?

Model 2
scene 1.a
if : s-mate click
then: manual scene “reverse” (switches the state of the light)

Do you agree that this is okay?

2
scene 2
if: light 1 on or light 2 on
then: 30S delay
manual scenes “off”

do you agree that it is okay?
do you agree that scene 2 will be done based on the state of the light on?

if I want to better understand how scenes work, a general answer is not enough.

my question is
why “model 1” works

why "model 2 " does not work

What is this “manual scene” anyway? What does it do? Is it an additional automation?

manual scene one does the lights in reverse. the other turns the lights off. it’s because you can’t have light as a trigger and as an action at the same time.

Have you got a separate, manual scene for turning the lights on/off?!